administration in order to inflict as disruptive as possess as possible on the american public and our economy all to further ear political agenda. >> bill: so it's all president obama's political agenda jim, and he's just doing this to -- you know to stir up some -- you know the public out outrage against the republicans in congress. >> it's unfortunate that we are being used as pons in their political chess match. but the finger pointing and name blame has got to stop and we need to start looking for solutions. they need to postpone the furloughs like they did the power closures last month, and let's come up with a solution. everybody agrees this is not the way to do business. so someone needs to show some leadership and sit down and get this resolved. >> is there a sense of when this will peak? >> as soon as memorial day weekend hits then you are going to start seeing some very serious delays. by then -- >> bill: which could not come at a worse time? >> oh, absolutely not. and then we have weather season that comes and the issue this is, when the faa started blaming some of the delays on we